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I suppose you can be some version of a “patriot” and support the use of torture, but you cannot be any version of Christian and support torture.

Wanda Hope Carter
I don't consciously support torture - I can't for this reason. .. BUT - let me say this, my son was kidnapped when he was a baby. And if I could have captured anyone involved and thought I could find out where he was to be able to rescue him by torturing them I probably would have. That's not the ri...
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  • December 26, 2014
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CuzMike
In law a persons emotional status is sometimes taken into consideration when rendering a judgment. Is there anywhere that you can think of that conscience, deliberate, infliction of pain is excused? Even more important is how will a persons actions be viewed on judgment day?
  • December 26, 2014
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Randall Covey, Russian Hacker
My Daughter was kidnapped from me... by her mother. Should I have tortured my ex-wife?
If I had, what would you call me, today?
  • December 27, 2014
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Wanda Hope Carter
That's why I say consciously I reject it and if I were in a room with someone and tempted I really don't know if I could for ANY reason.. I mean.. come on it's me typing here lol.... but I do explore this subject with an unsettled mind - that I admit. And this reminds me - of emotional torture that ...
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  • December 27, 2014
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Randall Covey, Russian Hacker
That's where the Bible comes into play. It's not just words, it's the imparting of the Spirit of the Word, that allows us sinners to discern, discriminate right from wrong.
Don't know about you but I have enough to beg forgiveness for, and more on a daily basis... this is one I hope never to be held...
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  • December 27, 2014
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Randall Covey, Russian Hacker
WARNING! THIS REPLY IS IN ALL CAPS!

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! HOW CAN ONE SAY THEY FOLLOW THE RISEN MESSIAH, AND SUPPORT THE SAME TREATMENT HE GOT FOR YOUR SINS? YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A ROMAN GUARD, WHIPPING JESUS HIMSELF!
*tirade over
  • December 27, 2014
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CuzMike
That's as clear as I've heard it said.
  • December 27, 2014
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Randall Covey, Russian Hacker
Am just really pissed off about this... what the hell... YES HELL, have we become? Barbarians?
I say yes, we are. Might as well start cutting off people's heads, imho.
  • December 27, 2014
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Wanda Hope Carter
Point well taken - but then so how should we react if a barbarian is holding our own hostage and torturing them. I mean hypthetically - I'm not trying to make any point other than really wanting to know your idea of appropriate response in the worse case scenario. And - this is sad to say, I bet we ...
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  • December 27, 2014
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Randall Covey, Russian Hacker
We don't become the evil we purport to oppose. We have them bound and gagged, totally defenseless, most often with a hood completely covering their heads, thousands of miles from home... and we torture them?
Worse case scenario? You call men like me who have accommodated themselves to the thought of ...
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  • December 27, 2014
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Randall Covey, Russian Hacker
Tasine, from your above;
" My thinking is that if you saw your daughter's throat exposed by a Middle
East terrorist who was yielding a sharp knife, you would kill him on the spot if you had a way to do it...........i.e., hypocrit."

A little change up: What if it were an "American terrorist"? Would you...
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  • December 27, 2014
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Wanda Hope Carter
Much food for thought here. I'll leave it at that except to say that I know the Christian way is to turn the other cheek and to love each other and pray for our enemies. I live by that but am in constant check of my thoughts and feelings. I've been over the edge before due to my own personal state o...
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  • December 28, 2014
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CuzMike
And some more good thoughts that you added. Thank you.
  • December 28, 2014
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Wanda Hope Carter
You're welcome!
  • December 28, 2014
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Randall Covey, Russian Hacker
An interesting "Catch 22", eh?
  • December 28, 2014
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